Today we have an old friend joining us – and I’m so happy to celebrate his first traditionally-published book of poetry!
First, a brief history of Vikram Madan: He grew up in India where he really wanted to be a cartoonist, but ended up an engineer. After many years of working in the tech industry, he finally came to his senses and followed his heart into the visual and literary arts. When not making whimsical paintings and public art, Vikram writes and illustrates humorous poetry collections, including the brand-new‘A HATFUL OF DRAGONS’ (Wordsong, 2020), which officially in April, and the Moonbeam Award winners ‘THE BUBBLE COLLECTOR’ and ‘LORD OF THE BUBBLES’.
Welcome back to the ol’ Triple-R, my friend! It’s been a long time since you’ve been here…7 years, to be exact, which was when your self-published “The Bubble Collector” came out. How do you feel you’ve progressed or changed in these past 7 years?
Thanks Matt! Wow those 7 years went by pretty quickly. I’m definitely older, but probably not much wiser! 🙂 Back in 2013 I was still enrolled in an art school. Since 2014 I’ve been working as a full-time visual artist focused on whimsical studio-painting and public-art. On the writing and illustration side, I feel I’ve grown more by going through the process of publishing A Hatful of Dragons than working on my own. Superb editors create many learning opportunities!

What did you learn from “Bubble Collector” or its follow-up, “Lord of the Bubbles,” that helped you with this book?
Self-publishing the ‘The Bubble Collector’ gave me a healthy respect for traditional publishing. It is extremely difficult, uneconomical, and time-consuming (for an author) to also distribute and market a physical self-published book (e-books are much easier to self-distribute). My experiences with ‘The Bubble Collector’ convinced me that if I wanted my work to reach a broader audience, I really needed to try and get my poetry traditionally published.
One has to admit, “Hatful of Dragons” is a pretty fun title for a book. What were some of the other potential titles you considered? (feel free to make these up, if you’d like – it’s just for fun!)
My working title was ‘I Met a Man With Twenty Heads’. That poem never made it into this book! Other titles we considered and rejected over time included:
- The Panda and the Pangolin: And Other Funny Poems
- Duel with a Mosquito: And …
- The Slobberly Slobs: And…
- There’s a Dragon in my Wagon: And…
None of these felt right, unique, and/or marketable.
Ironically, I was putting together my sequel to ‘The Bubble Collector’ in the background and had planned to call it ‘A Hatful of Bubbles’. ‘Hatful’ felt like a strong title so I decided to sacrifice/repurpose it and offered it up as ‘A Hatful of Dragons’. Everyone liked this new title, but now I would have to write a new poem for the book, worthy of being a title poem – talk about pressure! Thankfully this turned out to be a fun poem to write and illustrate. (And I retitled the sequel collection as ‘Lord of the Bubbles’).
This book is very different from most of the poetry collections out there these days, not just in the tone of your poems, but because you include a lot of visual cues – like a poem missing its all of its center words, or a poem that includes a one-page cartoon strip! Did you have a plan for how you wanted the book to look, or how you wanted the poems to be constructed?
As a kid, I loved treasuries and books with variety, so I like adding variety to my own collections. And as a visual person I am always pushing the words and images around to create interesting visual experiences. When Rebecca Davis, my editor, distilled my raw manuscript into a smaller collection, the visual variety became more ‘concentrated’ and turned into a distinctive feature of this book. I hope the variety will keep kids engaged and have them reading and re-reading.

One of my favorite poems is THE BAND-AID AND THE CHEWING GUM. Where did the idea come from?
One day I felt something sticky under my shoe, looked down and said to myself, “Oh, it’s a band-aid and a chewing gum?!” And I really liked how that phrase rolled off the tongue and thought to myself, “Hey, that could be the title of a poem!” (The rhyme pattern pays tribute to an old favorite featuring another unlikely duo, “The Walrus and the Carpenter,” by Lewis Carroll.)
Well, I’ll have to re-examine that poem! What’s one of your favorites?
This one!

So what surprises did you encounter as you worked with editor Rebecca Davis to put the book together?
My initial surprise came when Rebecca sculpted my 150-page manuscript into a chiseled 64-page book proposal! Even then I really wanted to cram as many poems into those 64 pages as I could, but she convinced me that ‘less is more’. Over the course of this book she has been a wonderful coach, holding me to a high standard, and gently (but firmly) prodding me to ‘do better’ and exceed my own limitations. This book would not be what it is without her vision and guidance.
Indeed, Rebecca is wonderful, isn’t she? You know, back in the day, the great Jack Prelutsky was told he should give up illustrating and focus on writing – and the rest, as they say, is history. Do you feel you’re a writer first or an illustrator first?
Jack Prelutsky’s first submission to an editor was a set of illustrations, with accompanying verses he had jotted down at the last minute just so his illustrations wouldn’t look bare. The editor loved his “natural gift for verse”, took the words, and rejected his drawings. I always thought of myself as an artist/illustrator first, but last year, when my agent, Rosemary Stimola, submitted an ‘early reader graphic novel’ project to an editor, they loved the stories and took the words, but rejected my art(!). I had my own ‘Jack Prelutsky moment’ there. 🙂 I’m still trying to figure out if I’m a writer or an illustrator first, or if that matters at all.
I ask that question because you are an artist, as well as an illustrator – and I do draw a distinction between the two. Art, though, is what got you into this business, and art plays a big role in your professional life. Where do you see these two halves of your life going?
When I paint, I use a variety of mediums: oils, acrylics, watercolor, ink. Popping up a level, I guess writing, drawing, painting, public art … are all mediums I use for expressing myself. At the end of the day I’m just trying to create some positivity in the world – if people/kids enjoy my work, and it gives them a sense of delight, a moment of levity they can share, a bit of inspiration, a rekindling of innocence… I think that’s more than I can ask for.
So what can we expect next from you?
I have an Early Reader Graphic Novel series, titled ‘Bobo & Pup-Pup’ releasing in 2021, illustrated by Nicola Slater and published by Penguin Random House. Books take a long time to cook up, land, and publish so I get my shorter-term ‘creative fix’ by making humorous and whimsical paintings. I invite readers to follow my work on social media: @ArtByVikram (instagram, facebook, twitter) or visit my website www.VikramMadan.com .
Well, thanks for visiting, Vikram, and good luck!
Thank you for featuring me Matt– it’s always a pleasure!
My pleasure, my friend!
And to my readers: we have a GIVEAWAY!
Just leave a comment below and you’ll be entered in a drawing to win a free copy of A Hatful of Dragons, courtesy of publisher Boyds Mills & Kane. Good luck!
It’s Poetry Friday – so if you’re looking for more poetry links & fun, stop by Tabatha Yeatt’s little home on the web, The Opposite of Indifference, for the complete roundup and an entreaty for “Acceptance.”
=========================================================
For some time now I’ve been wanting to help my educator and parent friends with educational videos geared to understanding poetry, and now my “Wit & Wordplay” videos, as I call them, are available on my YouTube channel! These videos focus on poetry: how to write it, how to appreciate it, and tips on having fun with it. There are several ready for viewing, and more are on the way – so be sure to subscribe or check back often!
You can view them all on my YouTube channel, and I also have several downloadable activity sheets at my website. If you think any of this information might be useful for someone you know, I hope you’ll share.
=========================================================

I’ve teamed up with several other children’s authors to promote our upcoming books this year! And there are a LOT of them, too – including SEVEN in March!
=========================================================
Ordering personalized signed copies online?
Oh, yes, you can!
You can purchase personalized signed copies of Flashlight Night, (Boyds Mills Press, 2017), Don’t Ask a Dinosaur (Pow! Kids Books, 2018), and nearly ALL of the books or anthologies I’ve been part of!
Just click the cover of whichever book you want and send the good folks at MainStreet BookEnds in Warner, NH a note requesting the signature and to whom I should make it out to. (alternatively, you can log onto my website and do the same thing) They’ll contact me, I’ll stop by and sign it, and then they’ll ship it! (Plus, you’ll be supporting your local bookseller – and won’t that make you feel good?)
=========================================================
Thank you to everyone for your support!
- NY Public Library’s “100 Best Book for Kids 2017” AND “Staff Pick!”
- KIRKUS Starred review!
- Kansas NEA Reading Circle Recommended Books!
- “Best Reads of 2017,” Unleashing Readers
- Finalist, 2019 New Hampshire Literary Awards
- Positive reviews from Horn Book, School Library Connection, School Library Connection, Booklist, Publisher’s Weekly, and Shelf-Awareness!
.
.- “Rollicking rhyme!” – Booklist
- “A wild romp!” – Parenting NH Magazine
- “Cute…intriguing…4 out of 5 stars” – Tulsa Book Review
- “Rhythmic…funny and informative” – Unleashing Readers
=========================================================
Did you like this post? Find something interesting elsewhere in this blog? I really won’t mind at all if you feel compelled to share it with your friends and followers!
I can’t wait to see Vikram’s book. The poems look fantastic!
LikeLike
It’s a fun book, I think you’ll like it!
LikeLike
I think you’ll enjoy it.
PS I’m hoping to send a signed bookplate label to anyone pre-ordering the book so if you do pre-order do send me a note through my website!
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thanks for the interview Matt!
Pssst: The Band-aid and the Chewing Gum also make a cameo appearance on page 38.
LikeLiked by 1 person
HA, I just checked and saw that! Ingenious!
LikeLike
62 pages! Wow! I’m really looking forward to reading this one.
LikeLike
It’s fun, you’ll like it!
LikeLiked by 1 person
64 actually – so that’s an extra 2 pages to enjoy! 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
So nice to get to know Vikram even better! Thanks to both for this rich interview. (Yes, Rebecca Davis is a poetry editing genius!)
LikeLike
She is, indeed! Thanks, Irene!
LikeLike
Thanks for the introduction to Vikram and his book. I look forward to reading it!
LikeLike
Thanks so much, Liz!
LikeLike
This looks like a great book full of fun poetry!
LikeLike
Thanks – I think you’ll enjoy it!
LikeLike
Vikram’s new book sounds & looks like another wonderful one for kids, Matt. I love that he both writes the poems & creates the art for this. Dragons in wagons? What could be more fun! Thanks for a wonderful interview & book intro!
LikeLike
Thank you, Linda!
LikeLike
We almost titled this book ‘There’s a dragon in my wagon’ but when I googled that title, I found at least six other books with that title. So I wasn’t the first one to think of it 😦
LikeLike
Thank you Matt and Vikram. I loved this terrific and comprehensive interview! The question about visual cues reminded me of when I first became aware of Vikram’s cleverness. It was in March Madness, 2014, I think, when he wrote a poem where a chunk of words had fallen out of it. So good!
LikeLike
HI Michelle, yes a variant of that madness poem is in this book. A little re-engineered so it’s a different set of words falling out!
LikeLike
I remembered that poem, too, as soon as I saw the new version in the book!
LikeLike
I swooned over the title, and after reading the interview I’m even more enchanted. Thank you for sharing A Hatfull of Dragons and introducing Vikram. I’m looking forward to reading this one!
LikeLike
It’s definitely a lot of fun, Kay!
LikeLike
Thank you – you can learn more about the book at http://www.HatfulOfDragons.com – and send me a note if you get one and I’ll send you a signed bookplate to put in the book.
LikeLike
This looks like a great book to put in a basket for my grandsons. Such fun poems and illustrations!
LikeLike
I’ll bet they’d love it!
LikeLike
Thanks – they will enjoy it – and hopefully so will you 🙂
LikeLike
This was a fabulous interview, and I’m excited to see both of you talented poets’ new books!!
LikeLike
Thank you so much, Savannah, I appreciate that!
LikeLike
Thanks 🙂
LikeLike
I love your titles and can’t wait to read the books..
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thanks, Jill!
LikeLike
Thanks 🙂
LikeLike
I love your titles and cannot wait to read the books.
LikeLike
So much goodness in Vikram’s book and this interview. I look forward to reading A Hatful of Dragons. 🙂
LikeLike
Thanks so much, Bridget!
LikeLike
Thank you for the kind words 🙂
LikeLike
I’m charmed by this interview, Matt! Vikram has a great sense of fun and a lovely respect for his readers. Thanks for bringing him back!
LikeLike
When I found out he had finally signed with BM&K, I knew I had to have join us again!
LikeLike
Yes, thanks Matt for bringing me back. Always fun and an honor to be here! 🙂
LikeLike
Pingback: The power of Nature: a 10-year-old’s outdoor guided meditation – Radio, Rhythm & Rhyme
Thanks for sharing Vikram’s book with us Matt, it’s delightful in both words and art! I loved hearing about Vikram’s comments on being an artist/writer and that line you walk as I do that too. Love all shared here, reminds me a bit of Shel Silverstein. all the best with your new book Vikram!
LikeLike
Thanks, Michelle…and yes, the comparison to Shel is inevitable!
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thank you Michelle! Shel’s work was a definite inspiration in my journey.
LikeLike
A comment, just a comment, he requested on this day,
the day I read two poems, hoping more are on the way
from Vikram’s mind they grew and grew into a larger work
His publicist refined, distilled, her duties not to shirk
What we have now? Perfection! Dragons in a hat.
to win one would be poetry! And that’s enough of that!
LikeLike
I always love to see poetry in the comments – thank you! (And good luck!)
LikeLike
That’s the best blog comment ever! 🙂 You must really love poetry and I hope you’ll love this book too! 🙂
LikeLike
Such a great interview! Thank you! Ruth, thereisnosuchthingasagodforsakentown.blogspot.com
LikeLike
Thanks, Ruth – best wishes, and stay safe!
LikeLike
Thank you Ruth!
LikeLike
Pingback: Poetry Friday: Kicking off National Poetry Month with a Giveaway Winner (ALSO: the NEA Read Across America Book of the Month) – Radio, Rhythm & Rhyme
Pingback: Poetry Friday: Happy #BookBirthday to “Secrets of the Loon!” – Radio, Rhythm & Rhyme
Pingback: It’s Monday: What are you reading? | Reflections on the Teche